
CONGRESSIONAL HEARING REPORT
DATE September
30, 2005
TO Interested
Parties
FROM Jane
West, Kristine Neuber, Lyndsay Pinkus
COMMITTEE U.S. House of Representatives
Committee on Education and the Workforce
SUBJECT “Closing
the Achievement Gap in America’s Schools: the No Child Left Behind Act,”
HEARING
DATE September 29, 2005
10:00
– 12:00
· The Honorable Margaret Spellings, Secretary of Education, U.S. Department of Education, Washington, D.C.
· Ms. Kati Haycock, Director, Education Trust, Washington, DC
·
Dr. Deborah
Jewell-Sherman, Superintendent, Richmond Public Schools, Richmond, VA
·
Republicans: Chairman
John Boehner, OH; Thomas Petri, WI; Howard McKeon, CA; Michael Castle, DE;
Vernon Ehlers, MI; Judy Biggert, IL; Tom Osborne, NE; Joe Wilson, SC; John
Kline, MN; Cathy McMorris, WA; Kenny Marchant, TX; Tom Price, GA; Luis Fortuno,
PR; Charles Boustany, LA; Virginia Foxx, NC; and Thelma Drake, VA.
·
Democrats: Ranking Member George Miller, CA; Dale
Kildee, MI; Major Owens, NY; Donald Payne, IL; Bobby Scott, VA; Lynn Woolsey,
CA; Ruben Hinojosa, TX; Carolyn McCarthy, NY; John Tierney, MA; Ron Kind, WI;
Dennis Kucinich, OH; Rush Holt, NJ; Susan Davis, CA; Betty McCollum, MN; Danny
Davis, IL; Raul Grijalva; Chris Van Hollen, MD; Tim Ryan, OH; and Tim Bishop,
NY.
Opening Statement
Chairman
John Boehner, R-OH
Chairman Boehner noted that NCLB has precipitated a fundamental shift
in America’s educational system, fostering a culture of accountability that is
producing significant gains in student achievement. Achievement has been
notable particularly among disadvantaged students who have in the past been
allowed to fall between the cracks. He
highlighted the fact that “The Nation’s Report Card” showed the highest level
of student achievement in the history of the long-term trends analysis with
larger gains seen among minority students in the last five years than in the
last three decades.
Boehner acknowledged that implementation of No Child Left
behind has seen “a few bumps” along the way.
He commended Secretary Spelling for working with local and state
officials to ensure that flexibility exists in order to avoid a
one-size-fits-all approach. While Boehner acknowledged the need for flexibility
in areas such as assessing students with disabilities and limited English
proficiency, obtaining highly qualified teachers and providing supplementary
education services, he was quick to also say that flexibility must not be
confused with weakening the law’s demand that all children be given a high
quality education. “We will not
compromise on the idea that no child should be left behind,” he said.
Testimony
The Honorable Margaret Spellings, Secretary of
Education, US Department of Education
After
acknowledging the efforts in the Gulf Coast, Secretary Spellings moved on to
talking about the implementation of NCLB in schools. She cited statistics to
make the case that more progress has been made in the improvement of National
Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) scores in the last five years since
NCLB implementation, than in the whole history of the NAEP.
Spellings
discussed the implementation of the supplemental education services (SES)
provisions of the law, and referenced recently announced “pilot flexibility”
for Chicago and Virginia school districts. (See the September 2, 2005 issue of
Washington Partners, LLC’s The Education
Report, for coverage of these regulations.) She mentioned the importance of
working groups to examine the development of modified assessments for students
with disabilities, growth models for adequate yearly progress, better ways to
measure the progress of English language learners and the measurement of the
subgroup achievement gap.
Spellings
noted that in the year 2020, 80 percent of jobs available to our students will
require an education beyond high school. Spellings noted that high school
reform is not just an education issue, but “an economic, social, civic and
national security issue.” Spellings cited statistics illustrating that little progress
has been made in improving student’s achievement at the high school level. She
said this demanded attention, in such areas as reading, math and science.
Questions and Answers
Boehner
responded by noting that “we are on
track and moving in the right direction.” He went on to say that it is the
right of every person to grow as much as they can. “Education is the new civil right of the twenty-first century,”
he noted. “As you can see, I get wound
up about this,” he reflected. He
acknowledged that no law is perfect and it is difficult to reach 100%
proficiency by 2014. Parents say it is
unrealistic. Boehner said jokingly, “Should
we set the bar at 95 percent proficiency, effectively saying 5% of students can
be thrown overboard?” He said that one
challenge for the reauthorization of NCLB would be better quantifying and
defining what it is we expect students to achieve. He expressed reservations about growth models as a way to measure
progress, noting that they must be pegged to something. He asked Spellings
about her thoughts on AYP and how we should deal with measuring progress.
Spellings
responded by saying that our
expectation should be that 100% of students will achieve proficiency. That is
our goal. She went on to say that we
must continue to make progress, accelerate instruction, spend more time on task
and provide supplemental educational services.
Spellings also pointed out that it is not too much to ask that students
achieve on grade level.
Boehner talked about the fact that we are losing 100
students a day who are dropping out. He
suggested that we are not losing these students in high school; instead we are
losing them by not lighting a fire under them in 1st through 3rd
grade. He said that we should focus on
Head Start and the early grades to prevent high school dropouts. Boehner added
that he thinks the focus on early grades, which appears to be improving student
achievement in the earlier grades, will inform what we need to address at the
high school level. He rearticulated a sentiment he has articulated before, that
he “doesn’t want to overburden our schools so quickly that they burn out and
walk away on us.”
Miller commented that there has been equal opportunity
criticism from both sides of the aisle for NCLB. He addressed six areas of concern (1) Highly qualified teachers. He emphasized the importance of maintaining
a deadline for providing highly qualified teachers to students, noting that
putting a highly qualified teacher in front of all students will benefit
everyone. (2) Growth models. He
stressed the importance of making sure that students are growing “towards a
destination” and not just growing without an ultimate goal of reaching a
target. (3) Supplemental educational services.
He noted that precious dollars are being spent in this area and stressed
the importance of fiscal management of the funds as well as putting funds
towards programs proven or most likely to work. 4) Students with disabilities.
He said he appreciated the flexibility provided for this group but it seems
some districts are interpreting this as an exemption for special education
students. He noted that there needs to
be a better focus on these students. 5) Katrina students. Miller wanted to be
sure that school districts are accountable for students who have been displaced
by Katrina and are new to their schools.
Finally,
Miller commented that he hears from school districts with 15% or 20%
proficiency that are all worked up about not being able to meet the 100%
target. He said he wants to tell them,
“Come see me when you are at 85% and we’ll talk!” He noted that the law is working in some places and we have to
remember that. Her urged Sec. Spellings
to look at the high school reform legislation he introduced that would involve
federal matching funds for programs that foundations have invested in.
McKeon shared a personal story of his grandson who has had
trouble reading and as a result began to dislike school and feel “stupid”. He is getting help now. McKeon said he thought there are millions of
kids like his grandson. He asked
Spellings how we could ensure an ongoing implementation and commitment to
helping these kids. Spellings
responded by saying that we need to continue to focus on results and balancing
reasonableness with expectations, noting that without data driven decision
making and accountability students can be forgotten.
Kildee brought up the issue of teacher qualifications and
the implementation of HOUSSE as an alternative way for teachers to gain highly
qualified status. He questioned how it
was being monitored when states are free to “do whatever they want.” He also
noted that the teachers who are highly qualified are not located in the rural
school districts where they are needed most.
Spellings noted that the HOUSSE provision is for veteran
teachers. She said that one of the
“dirty little secrets” in education is that the best educators are in the least
challenging environments. Highly qualified
teachers are most needed in the most challenging environments, she noted; otherwise,
we will not close the achievement gap.
Kildee noted that the HOUSSE provisions need to be monitored.
Castle
asked Spellings to rank in
importance what she sees as changes that need to be made during NCLB
reauthorization. He noted that the Administration’s proposal for high school
reform – which would have been funded by eliminating vocational education - was
not very strong.
Spellings
noted that
the use of some sort of growth model to
measure AYP should be considered. She warned that we need to be sophisticated in
using growth models and that annual assessments, regular data collection and
reaching proficiency by 2014 must continue to be part of the system. She said
that there is a “dearth of information about the problem” in our high schools.
“We THINK they dropout because they can’t read, and we THINK there are
disengagement issues,” she said, “but we don’t really know.”
Castle was particularly excited about the work of the
National Governors Association, which has led to a majority of governors
agreeing to a common graduation rate. Spellings and Castle commiserated about
the challenge of obtaining accurate data. Castle
concluded that “we shouldn’t wait” until reauthorization of NCLB to explore
what needs to be done at the high school level.
Susan
Davis described the success of the AVID
program in helping low income minority high school students go on to enroll in
postsecondary education. She asked what
the Department was doing to promote good programs. Spellings noted that the
Department funds AVID, and as part of its Advanced Placement and other
programs, is “building an appetite” for successful interventions. Spellings
added that AVID is successful because it is individualized.
Ehlers
focused on
the country’s math and science education
needs. He noted that we are spending
less on math and science education now than we did before NCLB was
enacted. Other countries have national
standards and programs that emphasize the sequential nature of both subjects,
he said. Without this agreed upon sequencing
students who move from one district to another lose the necessary sequencing of
instruction and receive a deficient education.
While it is not the job of the federal government to establish a
national curriculum, he asked Spellings what role the federal government could play
in addressing this sequencing and moving problem.
Spellings answered that “we need to do for math what we did
for reading,” including gaining a better understanding of math education. Spellings noted that she has convened a math
task force to look at this issue.
In
the most dramatic interaction of the hearing, Rep. Holt continued the
questioning on math and science. He
noted that funding for math and science is about one third of what it once was
and that the Administration’s requested a decrease in funding for the National
Science Foundation despite the tremendous needs for math and science education.
He also noted that funds that were used for math and science professional
development in the past are now lumped with other funds and they can be used
for activities like reducing class size.
Holt initiated an exchange about the science assessments that are required this
year, under NCLB. Holt noted that Congress intended that this assessment be
included as part of the AYP calculation, but he is hearing that it will not be.
Spellings answered that the science assessments will be used to “shine a
bright line” on science achievement. Holt
interrupted her to say, “so the tests are for no purpose?” She said “no” and
noted that when she worked with then-Governor Bush in Texas, the science tests
were included in AYP. Holt reiterated
his point, asking would it be enough just to assess in reading without
including the scores in AYP. She again
said “no.” Holt called on Spellings
to provide “needed leadership from Washington to teach science.” Holt concluded
by asking if teaching “intelligent design” was supported by the Department of
Education. Spellings said that the
Department is prohibited from determining curriculum.
Rep.
Kline (R-MN) noted that there was a
lot of complaining about the rigidity of NCLB.
He noted that his position is that we should try as hard as we can and
then see where changes are needed. He asked her what were the most common areas
of the law that she heard about as vexing issues.
Spellings said the top three were: 1) special education
students – understanding their range and abilities and who should and should
not be included in the accountability system; 2) LEP students – we have not
cracked the code yet; and 3) progress – is it realistic to meet full
proficiency for all students by 2014?
McCollum noted that Minnesota had its own reform system
before NCLB and that they had been penalized because their system pre-dated
NCLB. Spellings acknowledged that there
were challenges for states that had accountability systems in place before
NCLB.
Because
of scheduling demands, Spellings had to leave the hearing at 11:15.
Dr.
Deborah Jewell Sherman, Superintendent, Richmond Public Schools
Superintendent
Sherman began her testimony explaining the progress Richmond City Public
Schools has made in their commitment to providing a “world-class” education.
Sherman reported progress in meeting
NCLB standards with fifty-two percent
of Richmond City schools making AYP and 97 percent of teachers meeting highly
qualified standards.
Sherman
noted that the increase in the performance of the overall student population was
also shown in the subgroup populations as five of the six subgroups reported
showed improvement. She commented that Richmond City schools are focusing their
attention on those students in greatest need.
Kati
Haycock, Director, Ed. Trust
Haycock
began her testimony saying that everyone is talking about NCLB. She noted that the comments are not all
positive but the law is having positive impact on American education. She said
that educators around the country agree that the law has improved achievement
and works toward closing the achievement gap.
She made five main points in her testimony:
First,
criticism of NCLB is inevitable because it is bringing to the forefront issues
of class and racial inequality. She
noted that in the past accountability systems “accommodated rather than
challenged patterns of failure.”
Second,
the next focus needs to be on high schools where achievement has been stagnant
or declining. Haycock advocated for
more resources and effective strategies in this area.
Third,
the lack of available resources to help failing schools is problematic. Haycock
suggested that Congress could provide needed resources to failing schools by
funding school improvement grants in section 1003(g) of the No Child Left
Behind Act.
Fourth,
Haycock noted that despite the importance of teacher quality, the most
vulnerable students continue to have the least qualified teachers. She asked “What’s happened with all the new
money and all the new focus on teacher quality? No one knows,” she responded to her own question. She held that the Department has not
actively implemented the teacher quality provisions and that their guidance has
been erratic and inconsistent. She
indicated that the Department has done nothing to dispel common
misunderstandings of the law including a) teachers will lose their jobs if they
don’t meet their state’s “highly qualified” definition and b) school districts
will lose federal funds if teachers do not meet the definition. “It is
inexplicable that the Department has not been able to clarify the most
rudimentary issues with respect to teacher quality provisions,” she concluded.
Fifth,
Haycock addressed supplemental education services noting that the Department of
education has failed to enforce provisions that evaluate quality and
effectiveness, instead relying solely on “the market” to serve as an arbiter of
quality.
Haycock concluded by expressing the belief that we are on the right track with NCLB and we need to “stay the course on demanding that all students count.”
Questions and Answers
Biggert asked if the low level of funding for IDEA was
affecting NCLB. Haycock said she
thought they were different conversations.
Biggert asked if there was a commonality in schools that had turned
around from being low performing.
Haycock said there were 4 common factors: 1) clarity on standards for students; 2) teachers who know their
subject areas; 3) curriculum support for teachers and 4) extra instructional
time for students.
Woolsey
asked three questions: 1) If you
could change one thing about AYP, what would it be? 2) If you could change NCLB
to help low performing schools rather than punish them, what would you change?
3) How can schools keep their curriculums broad and avoid teaching to the test
and focusing on just a few curriculum areas?
Dr. Sherman noted that if schools that received additional funds
because they had been low performing could keep those funds after their
performance improves, that would make a big difference. She said that the incorporation of some sort
of growth model would be helpful and indicated that they had missed making AYP
one year because their participation rate in assessments was .6% below what was
required.
Haycock
said the high school application of
NCLB needed to be improved. She noted
that states need more capacity to help low performing schools – then there will
not be a “teach to the test” mentality and a narrowing of the curriculum.
Osborne noted that rural schools are having a hard time with
the highly qualified requirements because a teacher may have to teach so many
subjects. Haycock replied that we
basically have two options: 1) slap a label on all teachers and say they are
“highly qualified or 2) give teachers the support and education in the content
area they need. She noted that people
have rushed to say we cannot do this – let’s just declare everyone “highly qualified.” Lots of states have not stepped up to the
plate on this, she said. Perhaps higher
education could play a bigger role here, with distance education, she
suggested.
Scott
noted that there was a perverse
incentive built into NCLB whereby low performers were dropping out.
Tierney noted that some states have set the bar high and
some states have set the bar low. He
noted that it was a charade when a state with a low bar received a high score
and a state with a high bar received a low score. He noted that the law provides a disincentive for raising the bar
because of this. He said that the NAEP
tests reveal the discrepancy. In other
words, a state could receive 80% proficiency in a subject but only 20% score at
grade level on NAEP.
Boehner
adjourned the hearing at noon.